This does leave out an enormous range of situational / expert cases where IFHE is a benefit for select ships. The IFHE-rework came with stick and carrot. How about the upcoming Orkan? I don't know why. The IFHE rework has changed IFHE from a brainless "if you have the skill points, always take it". 150mm - Not needed due to increased penetration of Konigsberg & Makarov. Service In the course of the warship's eight-month career under its sole commanding officer, Kapitän zur See Ernst Lindemann, Bismarck conducted only one offensive operation: … Their pen has been buffed. Graf Spee's armour changes in partciular were fascinating with Huanghe and Perth getting artificially buffed over Leander which is weird, but neat. Nope. -Edit-  Allow me to add a little caveat here for destroyers. Kii - Her 100mm look SOOOO good, but their range sucks monkey butts, so they're not worth spec'ing into. Massachusetts - It's only effective when she's top tier. A game about huge boats. I pulled an all nighter to go over all (yes all) the armour values on cruisers and battleships from tiers IV through X along with penetration values to write this summary, so I'm still a little out of it. Normally I save these for reviews, but I know how much work went into this. However dumping all of this information into the summary article, while it would allow players to better make nuanced judgements for themselves, it would have caused the following problems: Taken far too damn long to write and present. A longer article discussing the merits of IFHE is definitely worthwhile, but making it comprehensive would be the length of a college thesis. Still, thank you for putting in this work! The increase in structural armour affects her AP as well as her HE, so looking at armour layout of every single bloody ship out there would also have to be taken into account. 77379 I am a professional dancer from Milwaukee. 150mm - IFHE Is reasonably effective due to ability to penetrate all tier VI & VII battleships and cruisers from tiers VI through IX. Tier 4 gives you CE. Großer Kurfurst - Also also also also no. So long as there were enough targets on the menu opened up by IFHE, and it wasn't a target that was going to get the average user killed by engaging it (like say, putting IFHE on a destroyer in order to engage radar-heavy American cruisers with guns) I gave it a "yes". Their HE are anemic enough from the beginning. 130mm & 139mm - IFHE Is reasonably effective due to ability to penetrate all tier VII battleships and cruisers from tiers VII through IX, but take it or leave it. Alpha Tester. (I learnt my lesson in WoT - WG does nothing but offer premium vehicles while doing nothing to repair the horrid map situation) 2 Share this post. And Mogami has unusually low base fire chance for 6" guns. Thank you very much LWM, you are credit to team. 203mm - Don't take IFHE on 203mm armed ships. Heck, you could slap it on 203mm guns previously and it provided a small benefit in select cases (even if this was largely laughable). I get the message! Actually, it would be fascinating to meet someone who simply plays Gascogne often. I could chat your ear off forever about the armour changes. Graf Spee's armour changes in partciular were fascinating with Huanghe and Perth getting artificially buffed over Leander which is weird, but neat. Depending on the ballistics of the gun in question this is easier / more difficult. Verdict: She’s a fat Hipper. So I'd love to hear from you about your post-IFHE rework experience. So don't go forking out 4 skill points for IFHE on a Minekaze, you goofs. Thunderer - Also also also also also also no. Just putting that article together could easily top 2,000 words and necessitate graphs mapping ballistics, dispersion, fire chance, AP penetration and armour layouts of some of the problem ships she'd be facing. I did some math and testing and still I cannot give an answer. 342 [PHD] GrayPanther2018. 120mm guns are especially taxed when bottom tier.Tier VIII. Tier II - IFHE is not needed.Tier III - IFHE is not needed.Tier IV - IFHE is not needed.Tier V - IFHE is not needed when top tier, but is useful when facing higher tiered opponents.Tier VI - Generally speaking, IFHE is effective for all gun calibers, but of less value when facing tier VIII opponents. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. IFHE's use falls off dramatically against tier VIII+ cruisers and battleships. 28. share. IFHE's use falls off dramatically against tier VIII+ cruisers and battleships. There's a lot of good conversations to be had here and I do not intend for this short summary to be the final word. On those guns. … Wait, wrong game. There was almost no drawback. Both of their armour values appear identical. Atlanta is shares a captain with Helena, so she gets IFHE too. Again, I must stress that this short summary is incredibly simplified and it had to be for brevity's sake. 150mm - Not needed due to increased penetration of Nurnberg & Makarov. 54 minutes ago, GrayPanther2018 said: Mouse … I do about 4 to 5 of these per year. Yes you gain some penetration for certain targets (equal tier Cruisers and BBs).But you don't see those potential targets often enough due to bad MM for T7 ships. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the WorldOfWarships community. Heck, you could slap it on 203mm guns previously and it provided a small benefit in select cases (even if this was largely laughable). If you are at doing this, there are some guns where you can go without IFHE. What about Atlanta/Flint's 127's at tier 7? You're just not facing enough lower-tiered ships where her penetration threshold works. For BB secondaries short of 105mm German guns, short answer is: no, Long answer: No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No Very No on toast. 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